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Bye-bye, ‘Berzerkeley’: Surveys reveal what students really think

| 25 February 2004

UC Berkeley students are all hippies. Or bleeding-heart liberals. Or nerds with their noses pressed against their computer monitors on Saturday nights. Which stereotype you hear depends on whom you ask: People on the East Coast, for example, seem to view Berkeley as if time had stopped for the university back in 1964, at the peak of the Free Speech Movement.

If you really want to know what Berkeley students are like, you ask them. That’s what the Office of Student Research (OSR) does each year, e-mailing every single enrolled undergraduate and asking them to fill out an extensive survey in exchange for the chance to win money and prizes. More than 10,000 of the university’s 23,000 students took the bait for the Spring 2003 UC Undergraduate Experience Survey (UCUES), while 2,600 of the 3,600 entering freshmen filled out the fall 2003 online Survey of New Freshmen.

John Lujan'When people say "UC Berkeley" they think of a bunch of weirdos and super-smart people. Is it accurate? Well, the students here are good students, they're smart, but there aren't really that many hippies or weirdos.'
John Lujan, 3rd year

“We’ve had an excellent response rate,” says OSR Director Gregg Thomson. The 2004 survey goes out March 30, and Thomson hopes the responses will top 50 percent this time. “With such high numbers, we can get a pretty good idea of what students are thinking about,” he says.

The answers to the surveys provide a priceless peek into the collective hopes and fears, goals, and pet peeves of enough Berkeley students to fill the Greek Theatre several times over — while exploding a few stereotypes in the process.

Berkeley students work hard
They do, but perhaps not as hard as the rumors have it. While 34.1 percent of freshmen expected to have to study 16 to 20 hours per week outside of classes, only 15.9 percent of UCUES respondents reported actually doing so. The largest group, 28.2 percent, gets by on 6 to 10 hours of studying per week. (If you include time spent “surfing the Internet related to course assignments,” however, 62.4 percent spent an additional 1 to 5 hours per week studying.)

yuwei‘People think there’s a lot of Asians here. And it’s true, there are, but it’s more diverse than that. They also think we’re all hippies doing pot — but it’s not any more than at other schools. The stereotype comes from back when Berkeley really was a hippie school, with lots of protests all the time and the Free Speech Movement. Now people think of it more for its academic reputation.’
— Yu Wei, 4th year

Studying is not the only task they’re shirking: 43.7 percent of students admitted they had not completed some of the assigned readings in their classes, compared with the 30 percent who said they’d done all or virtually all. They do feel a little guilty about it, though. Almost 20 percent of students said they should have spent “much more” time on reading and studying, and another 46.2 percent thought they should have spent “somewhat more.” By contrast, only 5 percent felt they should quit hitting the books so hard, and only 29 percent thought they were hitting them exactly hard enough.

Perhaps their organizational skills are to blame. “Poor” was how 16.5 percent of all students rated their time-management skills, with another 36.8 percent calling them “fair” — slightly more than the 35.4 percent who checked “good.” The proportions were about the same for entering freshmen, but these first-year students had a lot more anxiety about whether their time-management skills would measure up. Asked to rate theirs fears about “being overwhelmed, my first semester, with all the things that I will be expected to do,” 86.4 percent were “somewhat” or “very concerned.”

Jeff Hughes‘The obvious stereotype that everyone has is Berzerkeley — that there’s a lot of political action on campus all the time. Berkeley is pretty left wing, I’d have to agree, but not as much as people think. I’ve met some aggressive conservatives on campus, too. I think people here just like to get involved in something.’
Jeff Hughes, 3rd year

Making the grade was the No. 1 worry of entering freshmen, judging by a random sample of 100 write-in answers to the question “As you start Berkeley, what is the one thing that you are most concerned about?” A handful of first-years answered simply “academics,” while others elaborated: “Being able to get very good grades while also experiencing the campus social life,” wrote one student. Another doubted “whether I will be able to perform in such a competitive atmosphere.”

Freshmen, take note: it does get easier. Most students seem to find a balance later on in their education. Only 12.9 percent of UCUES respondents said they handled stress poorly, while 51.1 percent said their stress-management skills were “good” or “excellent.”

Show them the money
More than a quarter — 26.3 percent — of freshmen said they were expected to contribute financially to help pay their school bills. Although 57 percent of freshmen expected not to work at all their first year, only 14.7 percent imagined they’d be as well supplied with free time thereafter. Instead, more than half thought they’d be working up to 10 hours per week.

 

Olivia Or‘Outsiders say all the time that Berkeley is full of really smart people because it’s such a prestigious university. And it is prestigious, but you realize once you come here that Berkeley’s full of people of all sorts — smart and not as smart.’
—Olivia Or, 4th year
They were right. According to the UCUES, approximately 52 percent of second-year students and upperclassmen had on- or off-campus jobs (or both) that required at least three to five hours per week.

Many were also taking the borrowing route. Almost half, or 44.9 percent, of freshmen expected to have loans of $10,000 or more by the time they graduated. That idea weighed on them: 74.9 percent of freshmen were “somewhat” or “very concerned” about financing their Berkeley education. How-ever, most at least seemed to feel it would be money well borrowed: 58.9 percent of freshmen said that Berkeley’s value for their money was a factor in choosing Cal over their second-choice college.

Most believe the investment will pay off in the future: 64.6 percent of incoming freshmen thought Berkeley offered an advantage for getting into graduate or professional school, and an overwhelming 72.6 percent thought it would help with future employment opportunities. Only 10.6 percent of all undergraduate respondents planned to stop their schooling at their bachelor’s degree. Another 27.3 percent intend to get a master’s, 21.5 percent a doctorate, while roughly a third plan to continue on to either law, medical, or business school (about 11 percent each). Not surprisingly, given their graduate-school ambitions, the most popular future careers were lawyer/judge (9.1 percent), physician (8.1 percent), and engineer (6.6 percent), although 11.9 percent of undergraduates admitted they “had no idea whatsoever” what kind of job they wanted.

Not all Berkeley students are merely driven career types. Although 57.7 percent of freshmen said that being in a position to make a lot of money after graduation was “very important” or “essential” to them, 71.2 percent said the same thing about being able to give back to their communities.

The melting pot is bubbling
Berkeley is famed for its diversity, and this is one stereotype that lives up to its reputation. A large majority of freshmen, 62.8 percent, cited a diverse student body as a factor in their decision to choose Berkeley, and they got their wish. Although 69.9 percent of Berkeley undergraduates were born in the United States, 23.9 percent learned to speak another language before English and 26 percent learned another language along with English.

That’s because 55.7 percent come from families where neither the mother nor father was born in the States — only 35 percent of students come from families where both parents were born here. In addition to the many Berkeley students who speak Cantonese, Mandarin, and Vietnamese, there are those with more exotic mother tongues such as Amharic (Ethiopia), Dari (Afghanistan), Kannada (India), Bahasa (Indonesia), Slovak, and Hungarian.

These students mix. Among all undergraduates, 76.1 percent thought understanding culturally diverse viewpoints was important and said they had made “some” or “considerable” progress toward that goal. Almost half, or 45.5 percent, had in-depth conversations “often” or “very often” with a student from a different race, ethnicity, or country, with another 30 percent doing so “sometimes.” That result could be attributed to Berkeley’s stereotypically tolerant atmosphere: 75.2 percent agreed or strongly agreed that students here are respected regardless of their race and ethnicity.

The atmosphere of acceptance extends to other sensitive areas as well. Similar percentages, 73.2 percent and 75.6 percent, agreed or strongly agreed that students are respected regardless of religious beliefs and sexual orientation, respectively.

Berkeley students are children of the revolution
Nope. They’re not. Nor are they all watching The O’Reilly Factor, except maybe for their political science classes, but the flag- and/or bra-burning days are long behind us. Among all undergraduates, 59.7 percent had never engaged in a political protest or demonstration, and another 18.1 percent said they had done so only rarely. When asked to rate the strength of their political views, a surprising number — 37.1 percent — deemed them “weak” or “very weak.”

Only 6.1 percent identified their political beliefs as “far left.” The largest percentage, 42.2 percent, did say they were “liberal,” but an almost equal group — 39.4 percent — claimed to be “middle of the road.”

“Conservative” students made up 11.8 percent of the respondents, and only 0.5 percent — 54 students out of nearly 10,000 respondents — said they were “far right.”

And yet Berkeley’s reputation as a liberal bastion is not a turn-off for prospective students. Among incoming freshmen, 60.8 percent said that the liberal environment made them lean toward Berkeley in choosing a college, 28.2 percent said it had no influence, and only 11 percent said it made them lean much or somewhat more toward their second-choice college. Again, the atmosphere of tolerance comes into play: 83.2 percent of all students agreed or strongly agreed that they could express their political beliefs.

Satisfaction guaranteed
But perhaps the most surprising area of responses, given the stereotype that Berkeley undergraduates often get lost at this huge, research-oriented university, was how UCUES respondents rated their overall satisfaction. More than three-quarters (83.4 percent) said they were “satisfied” or “very satisfied” with their academic experience, 82.6 percent were equally happy about their cultural and life experience, and 86.4 percent were satisfied or very satisfied with their overall UC experience.

And asked if they could make their college choices all over again, 85.9 percent agreed or strongly agreed that they would still pick Berkeley.

More information
The Fall 2003 Survey of New Freshmen was a collaboration between the Office of Student Research and the Office of Undergraduate Admissions. The UCUES is part of a larger research project in which the OSR is participating, called the Student Experience in the Research University in the 21st Century (SERU21).

To browse the full results of the Spring 2003 Undergraduate Experience Survey, visit http://osr.berkeley.edu/Public/STAFFWEB, scroll down to locate entries under Tom Cesa’s name, and select the appropriate link.